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Re: 1979 - Pace Car - 302-2v - TuxStang

Message par Olive74 » 13 Août 2017 20:22

Oui il va avoir du réglage, des petits trucs a changer .... Mais bon ça tourne et ça va dans le bon sens :dance:
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Message par TuxStang » 13 Août 2017 21:23

Thermostat remplacé par un testé à la bouilloire. Résultat demain vu que j'ai du le faire avec de la pate à joints.

Par curiosité on a testé l'autre thermostat ... il a pas moufté, même au chalumeau. Pourtant je l'avais testé avant de l'installer.
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Re: 1979 - Pace Car - 302-2v - TuxStang

Message par TuxStang » 14 Août 2017 17:40

Lol ... et maintenant c'est au tour de la courroie d'accessoire de rendre l'âme ... elle était neuve ... enfin il y a 7 ans d'accord mais elle a pas beaucoup servie ces 6 dernières années. Décidément, il m'aura tout fait ...

Enfin au moins le problème de thermostat est réglé ... c'est étanche et il n'y a plus de surchauffe, le thermostat s'ouvre.
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Re: 1979 - Pace Car - 302-2v - TuxStang

Message par Olive74 » 14 Août 2017 20:03

Mieux vaut dans le garage qu'à 300 bornes :mrgreen:
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Re: 1979 - Pace Car - 302-2v - TuxStang

Message par TuxStang » 14 Août 2017 20:42

A 300 bornes, j'en aurais peut être trouvé une au premier accessoiriste auto du coin ... mais ici c'est des faignasses, ils font tous le pont. Du coup j'irais en chercher une Jeudi.
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Re: 1979 - Pace Car - 302-2v - TuxStang

Message par crayon » 15 Août 2017 11:19

Que de travail, que de travail, que de travail... :think:
Ne crois-tu pas qu'avec certaines pièces mises neuves au départ tu aurais économisé un temps magistral? :shifty:
Des thermostats d'occasion, des courroies neuves de 6 ans, j'en passe... tu es bien patient et motivé pour refaire 2 à 3 fois les choses.

Alors c'est sûr, ça favorise la recherche de pannes mais au final, elle est toujours dans le garage et un voiture, c'est fait pour rouler, non? :mrgreen:
Allez, en cherchant bien, tu dois bien avoir un bidon de SP d'il y a 10 ans... :happy-jumpeveryone:
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Re: 1979 - Pace Car - 302-2v - TuxStang

Message par TuxStang » 15 Août 2017 11:51

Pas besoin d'un bidon de SP de 10 ans, il restait 20l dans le réservoir :mrgreen: Mais j'ai quand même rajouté 10l d'essence fraiche faute de pouvoir vidanger le réservoir.

Le thermostat, je l'avais testé avant ... ce n'est pas le genre de pièce qui vieillit même quand elle ne sert pas contrairement à la courroie, ou la, j'aurais du anticiper. Je l'avais testé avant ce thermostat, et il s'était ouvert quand j'ai fait le niveau du radiateur moteur tournant 1 semaine avant ... c'est la loterie avec les thermostats, ça va de celui qui lache a peine sorti de boite à celui qui fonctionne encore 50 ans après avoir été installé.
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Re: 1979 - Pace Car - 302-2v - TuxStang

Message par crayon » 16 Août 2017 11:05

Pas faux! :mrgreen:

Allez, la suite, faut qu'ça tourne!!! ;)
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Re: 1979 - Pace Car - 302-2v - TuxStang

Message par le dogue » 19 Août 2017 05:57

Enfin, des bonnes nouvelles ! :clap:

Je ne pouvais pas décemment repartir dans le sud sans certitudes !!!
C'est fait : Quelques tours de parking à bord du Pace-Car me permettent d'affirmer qu'il roule ( et même plutôt bien, après toutes ses mésaventures ! )
Notre ami Fred semble satisfait, presque heureux... Ce n'est pas habituel... Pourvu que cela dure.
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Re: 1979 - Pace Car - 302-2v - TuxStang

Message par TuxStang » 19 Août 2017 08:25

Et cerise on ze cake, j'ai trouve un creneau pour passer le ct ce matin a 1/4h du parking ... j'ai egorge un cierge et brule un poulet, , ca devrait aller.
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Re: 1979 - Pace Car - 302-2v - TuxStang

Message par le dogue » 19 Août 2017 12:20

;) Un célèbre et reconnu pilote aventurier à, comme devise " Si tu peux...Vas-y ".
Il me semble, que dans ton cas,cela s'impose ! ( Bien sur, fais un peu de ménage à bord, avant la visite...Cela devrait aider ! L'égorgement du cierge n'étant, sans doute, pas suffisant, le poulet carbonisé, non plus !) :pray: :handgestures-fingerscrossed:
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Re: 1979 - Pace Car - 302-2v - TuxStang

Message par TuxStang » 19 Août 2017 15:40

CT réussit, et une bonne adresse pour les anciennes, le patron étant propriétaire de 2 Oettinger, l'accueil et le service sont très sympas (GORKI AUTOBILAN 10 boulevard Maxime Gorki 94800 Villejuif)

L'amorto avant-droit n'a pas trop aimé l'immobilisation, il passe mais il va falloir envisager le remplacement. Les silent-blocs avant des tirants supérieurs du pont commencent à craqueler, et bien sur, il y a quelques défauts d'étanchéité, mais mineurs (enfin mineurs ... heureusement que ça n'a pas duré trop longtemps, j'ai toujours trop d'huile dans la boite, du coup ça déborde toujours par l'event, mais il l'a pas vu).

Bien sur je suis bon pour 4 pneus ... non seulement ils sont carrés mais les 2 avant sont contaminés aux huiles moteur et boite ... mais bon, vu leur âge, leur remplacement était prévu.

Du coup, le Pace Car va enfin pouvoir visiter les étangs de Trivaux demain :dance:
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Message par Xavier 37 » 19 Août 2017 16:03

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Message par Peyrolade » 19 Août 2017 18:32

Que de bonnes news... UNe mustang qui renait c'est une bonne nouvelle pour nous tous :)
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Message par TuxStang » 20 Août 2017 12:07

Quand ça veut pas, ça veut pas ... galères pour démarrer ce matin, forte ordeur d'essence et .... oh, y'a de l'essence dans la gamelle de filtre à air et tout autour du carbu ... du coup, pas de rencard pour le Pace Car :crying-yellow:

Bref ... problème de carbu pourtant refait il y a peu. J'en saurais plus cet aprem.
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Message par TuxStang » 22 Août 2017 21:02

Le fait que le problème ne se soit pas reproduit Dimanche après-midi quand je suis allé regarder laisse a penser à un problème aléatoire de pointeau ... je ne vais pas prendre de risques, j'ai commandé un nouveau kit de rénovation.

Pour la session de roulage, ce sera sans moi ... les pneus ne sont pas en état de faire le trajet, encore moins de rouler sur circuit, qui plus est avec un moteur, mine de rien, en rodage (il n'a pas tourné depuis 17 ans quand même). Pour l'instant, quand le problème de carbu sera résolu, le Pace Car se contentera de petites balades locales, le temps que tout se mette en place comme il faut et que les derniers "bugs" soient identifiés et résolus.
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Message par TuxStang » 27 Août 2017 10:59

En attendant de refaire le carbu, un projet qui se présente bien ...

Il y a quelques mois, je me suis acheté une imprimante 3D, principalement pour imprimer des accessoires pour mes r/c, mais du coup j'en ai profité pour voir a améliorer une modif que j'avais fait sur le Pace Car il y a fort longtemps ... le support de jauges à la place de l'autoradio.

A l'époque, pas d'imprimante, j'avais fait ça avec un bout de plaque plexi, 2 trous et du double-face. Pas terrible niveau aspect et tenue, mais fonctionnel. Ayant une façade d'autoradio à la maison, j'ai pris le pied a coulisse, une bonne réserve d'aspirine et je me suis lancé ... j'ai reproduit la façade avec ses reliefs et ses ergots de positionnement et imprimé (en 2 moitiés faute de plateau assez grand) en mode brouillon avec le filament que j'avais sous la main, de l'ABS blanc. Les 2 moitiés collées et présentées sur le Pace Car, voila ce que ça donne :

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L'aspect n'est pas terrible coté finition, mais c'est normal, mon imprimante est un modèle 1er prix qui a quelques soucis de stabilité que je suis en train d'arranger (avec un nouveau chassis plus rigide notamment) par contre, ça monte correctement, comme la façade d'origine. Seul problème, vu que la façade d'origine est maintenue plaquée par les boutons de l'autoradio et que la, bah y'a pas de boutons ... ça va pas tenir tout seul longtemps .... donc il faudra quand même du double-face. Mais le test est probant aussi dés que possible, je ré-imprime avec une meilleure finition, et je lui passe un coup de peinture bien sur.
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Message par crayon » 28 Août 2017 11:36

Pas mal cette idée! :clap:
Et en y incluant des petits ergots derrière tes plaques pour qu'ils fassent office de clips, pas possible?
Ceci en y imprimant ensemble avec les faces avant donc... :shifty:
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Message par TuxStang » 28 Août 2017 12:38

C'est une idée que j'ai envisagé après avoir essayé la façade ... je vais essayer, mais pas évident a mesurer pour bien les positionnner.
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Message par Olive74 » 28 Août 2017 12:50

Pas trop compliqué de prendre les cotes ...
C'est sur qu'avec les imprimantes 3 D ça va bien aider dans certain cas
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Message par TuxStang » 28 Août 2017 19:05

Les imprimantes 3D, ça peut aider dans certains cas, mais c'est vite limité quand même. D'une part par la qualité de finition même si on peut post-traiter certains plastiques pour un rendu bien lisse, mais surtout à cause des plastiques eux-mêmes et de la technologie en dépôt de couches. Pour cette pièce, je suis obligé d'utiliser de l'ABS (le même plastique que pour les maquettes) à cause de la température que peux atteindre l'intérieur du Pace Car en été. Le PLA généralement utilisé (le plus simple a imprimer) commence a se déformer à 50C ... imagine en plein cagnard sur la pit-lane ou la température peut monter à plus de 80C dans l'habitacle. Le dépôt en couches ne permettra jamais d'obtenir une pièce aussi solide que si elle était moulée, peu importe le taux de remplissage choisi, et comme avec un arbre, il faut bien choisir dans quel sens on imprime les couches par rapport aux efforts a encaisser.

Difficile d'envisager d'imprimer une pièce qui serait utilisée dans le compartiment moteur de la Mustang, ou une pièce soumise à de gros efforts, et les pièces translucides comme des blocs de feux restent du domaine du rêve inaccessible. Ça va bien pour cette façade ou reproduire des boutons de radio, commandes ou encore des clips de fixation de panneau de portes ou de tringle de capot (j'en ai imprimé un pour la Cobra 80, a améliorer mais fonctionnel), mais guère plus, en tous cas pas sans passer par des filaments spécialisés et la, il faut autre chose qu'une imprimante 1er prix comme la mienne, même si je la fait évoluer petit à petit.
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Message par TuxStang » 17 Sep 2017 13:32

Voila, ça y est, après quelques déboires de carbu qui ont pris un peu de temps a régler, c'est faiit, le Pace Car est sorti de sa grotte pour rejoindre ses copines Mustangs pour la première fois depuis bien longtemps.



Les pneus sont définitivement carrés, on le sent même à 70 sur le périph', et le ralenti était un peu haut, mais aucun soucis à l'aller et au retour, peut être un petit problème de bougies qui se desserrent ... a vérifier d'ici le week-end prochain (maintenant qu'il roule, il va pas rester a l'ombre).
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Message par Chris » 17 Sep 2017 16:09

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Message par Olive74 » 17 Sep 2017 17:03

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Message par crayon » 17 Sep 2017 18:35

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Quel boulot...félicitations :clap: :clap:
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Message par carlos06 » 18 Sep 2017 11:49

ah on va pouvoir l'utiliser comme pace car au prochain MD 2018
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Re: 1979 - Pace Car - 302-2v - TuxStang

Message par TuxStang » 18 Sep 2017 12:41

J'espère bien ... le dernier sticker du MD sur le parebrise date de 2008 quand même ...
-- Indy 500 Pace Car 1979 --
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Re: 1979 - Pace Car - 302-2v - TuxStang

Message par Olive74 » 18 Sep 2017 14:39

Ah oui 10 ans !!! et bien que c'est long ;)
Coupé 66 GT 289 Boss 302 de 70.............. Boss 302 de 70 Export et Coupé 68 épave
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Re: 1979 - Pace Car - 302-2v - TuxStang

Message par TuxStang » 18 Sep 2017 14:47

Et oui, 10 ans déjà ... un MD mémorable pour moi, une chaleur a creuver au volant (2 packs de flotte y sont passés) et un régulateur de tension qui a claqué (on m'en a fort heureusement prêté un mais retour en plein-phare + AB pour descendre la tension autant que possible pour ne pas exploser la batterie, c'était un régulateur mécanique et aucun outil pour le régler).
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